Seiko & Citizen Watch Forum Message Archive
Maybe Katsu can answer question 1 ... regarding question 2 ...
Hi Wayne,
I'm glad you found my post interesting.
I'm sorry but I don't think I can really answer your first question. I'll bet Katsu Higuchi would have a better idea about that since he sells both Swiss and Japanese watches. My impression is you are on the mark with your suggestion.
Regarding your second question, I think there is no doubt that having a Swiss watch such as a Rolex Submariner would be much more of a source of pride for your average company freshman than having a Seiko MarineMaster.
Seiko has an image of being "shibui" (old fashioned). Owning a Seiko was a source of pride for current company freshmen's grandparents, so they seem out of date to many young Japanese. I've only seen one Japanese person actually wearing a MarineMaster 300m Automatic -- he was about 35 years old, obviously a salaryman. I saw him on a plane to Osaka with this wife and two young kids. I've seen guys his age wearing a Rolex Sub many, many times.
I've noticed a trend recently where younger Japanese in their 20's, 30's and 40's who love watches tend to go for Rolex or Omega (and G-Shock for the weekend), whereas some executives in their 50's and 60's are starting to wear REALLY expensive Swiss ones like Franck Muller.
Most Japanese men in their 70's and 80's wear Seiko or Citizen.
Message Thread
- Those "Cheap" Seiko Watches from the 1960's and '70's (essay w/scans) - Ryan - 2002-08-22 18:03:00
- What a great post Ryan - petew - 2002-08-22 18:09:00
- Ryan - Very interesting analysis... (questions) - Wayne Lee - 2002-08-22 18:12:00
- Maybe Katsu can answer question 1 ... regarding question 2 ... - Ryan - 2002-08-22 19:15:00
- The time to changeing.. - katsu - 2002-08-24 00:01:00
- Great Post Ryan... - Rob Backstrom - 2002-08-22 18:29:00
- Thank you. nt - Vince - 2002-08-22 18:33:00
- Thanks Ryan for your unique insights.... - jake359 - 2002-08-22 18:56:00
- The US dollar was worth more then in Japan than it is now. - Mitchtwo - 2002-08-22 20:32:00
- You're right, Mitch (more) - Ryan - 2002-08-22 22:06:00
- Ryan, what's your take on this... - Tolley - 2002-08-22 19:54:00
- Your comments are spot on, Tolley (more) - Ryan - 2002-08-22 20:54:00
- Thanks Ryan. nt - Carlos - 2002-08-22 19:56:00
- Very nice....a cut above! - ASH - 2002-08-22 20:22:00
- Thanks Ryan for such wonderful horological economics!! nt - Brandon Aybar - 2002-08-22 20:37:00
- Really enjoy reading it. Domo Domo...Ryan-san..!(NT) - Daniel Choh - 2002-08-22 20:56:00
- Thanks Ryan for a very informative and scholarly post. nt - hawkeye - 2002-08-22 21:01:00
- Ryan, what a fantastic "sanity check" >>> - Bob A (SD) - 2002-08-22 21:37:00
- Great story, Bob A ... - Ryan - 2002-08-22 21:55:00
- Great Post Ryan, thanks.......................................NT - Manoj - 2002-08-22 22:32:00
- Wonderful post! Extremely informative as usual. (nt) - Chris - 2002-08-22 23:55:00
- Thanks for this essay and for all the others that you >> - John W - 2002-08-23 04:26:00
- Thanks to everyone for your kind words (more) - Ryan - 2002-08-23 04:32:00
- great stuff! - frankie - 2002-08-23 16:27:00
- Many thanks Ryan. Another great essay. nt - Barney - 2002-08-23 07:04:00
- Ryan, outstanding discussion. Thanks for your analysis. nt - Rob - 2002-08-23 07:52:00
- Once again a very clear insiteful lesson from the Master Teacher - Del Cline - 2002-08-23 13:13:00
- Some comments on Japan Yahoo Auctions - Ryan - 2002-08-24 15:56:00
- It makes so much sense. THX - regjo - 2004-08-16 11:58:00