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Actually Aaron, there *is* something very special about the gasket material...>>
The brilliance of Seiko's approach to the helium-entry problem lies in the way they thought outside the square. Instead of going the familiar venting valve way, they tackled the problem from first principles by eliminating (as far as possible) the entry of helium in the first place. To do this they used a one-piece case, and used a new gasket material which was virtually impervious to helium. Now, the equation for determining the amount of gas entering the case is given by:
Q = K(P1-P2)at/l (I think that's right), where
Q=quantity of gas entering the case
K=penetration coefficient of the gas (determined by the gasket material)
P1=outside pressure
P2=inside pressure
a=x-sectional area of gasket
t=time
l=length of water-sealing portion of gasket.
From the equation, it can be seen that the amount of gas entering is directly proportional to the penetration coefficient, the pressure differential, the cross-sectional area of the gasket and the amount of time spent in the gas environment. It's also _inversely_ proportional to the sealing length of the gasket, which is why the L-shape was developed. So you see, both the nature of the material of the gasket, and its special shape, were vital in achieving the aim of cutting down the amount of helium entering the watch to virtually zero. Simply brilliant!
GLSM IBC, Rep. Bellm.
_Time runs differently for watchmakers--a week to them is a month for everyone else._
Message Thread
- question about He gas and special gasket - outremer2 ( From Seiko & Citizen Forum) - 2007-11-27 08:24:00
- Not a release valve - Bongo - 2007-11-27 09:02:00
- The gasket is not helium proof.... - petew - 2007-11-27 09:06:00
- Grammatically correct... - Bongo - 2007-11-27 09:10:00
- !!! - outremer2 ( From Seiko & Citizen Forum) - 2007-11-27 09:20:00
- Bongo my friend, are you implying I started a Myth?...I simply went on other - Poseidon-Jim - 2007-11-27 11:52:00
- The L gasket keeps helium out - Bongo - 2007-11-27 13:47:00
- No my friend, were not going to argue & thanks for your final thoughts!... - Poseidon-Jim - 2007-11-27 15:22:00
- The problem with helium incursion into a watch is that> - Cobrajet25 - 2007-11-27 18:28:00
- Thanks Aaron & appreciate that information!....gotta hear from you more often..../nt - Poseidon-Jim - 2007-11-27 19:21:00
- Actually Aaron, there *is* something very special about the gasket material...>> - Sir Les - 2007-11-27 19:28:00
- yes! - outremer2 - 2007-11-27 22:31:00
- So is the gasket made out of some kind of "super rubber"?> - Cobrajet25 - 2007-11-28 03:32:00
- Yes, it is........>> - Sir Les - 2007-11-28 05:55:00
- Good work Sir Les.... - Neil - 2007-11-28 06:30:00
- Based on charts I've seen.... - petew - 2007-11-28 07:18:00
- Thank you Pete for putting it so eloquently...>> - Sir Les - 2007-11-28 08:01:00
- thank tou very much... - outremer2 - 2007-11-28 10:09:00
- Thanks Sir les & Petew and yes all of you guys!...really excellent information you all.... - Poseidon-Jim - 2007-11-28 19:34:00
- Thats 100% correct Sir les!...thats right on & Petew & bongo are right too the other day.. - Poseidon-Jim - 2007-11-28 19:20:00
- Thats true Aaron & you hit the nail on the head good!..a few other factors too & thanks... - Poseidon-Jim - 2007-11-28 20:35:00